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White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: January 02, 2014 06:10PM

- For dive mode and simulator mode for White colour scheme, it would be better when GF or aGF selected is White and when GF or aGF unselected is Red,
(Currently GF and aGF, selected or unselected, remain always White).
- For the other colours, Red, Green and Blue the colour change is correct when GF or aGF is selected or unselected.
Happy new year! Best wishes!
The Best and safety for your dives 2014!

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><



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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: February 04, 2014 05:04PM

Hi Matthias,
it would be friendly to have an answer or to have an opinion on this proposal,
Thank you in advance,
Regards,

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: heinrichsweikamp ()
Date: February 04, 2014 05:22PM

Hi,

We read here regularly, but we don't comment everything, sorry.

Regards,
Matthias

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: April 01, 2014 01:15AM

Hi Matthias,
Now we are in april,
it would be friendly to have an answer or to have an opinion on this proposal, simply and easy to do it for you,
Thank you in advance,
Regards,

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><



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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: heinrichsweikamp ()
Date: April 01, 2014 08:13AM

Normal GF:





aGF:



I don't get the point here, sorry.

regards,
Matthias



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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: April 01, 2014 11:18AM

Matthias,
By changing color you will understand my request,
I ask simply that for the white color, when the GF or aGF is selected it will be White and when the GF or aGF isn't selected it will be Red,
With the other colors, when GF or aGF isn't selected the color is changed,
With the attached Photos it's more clearly for you?
With this we can perhaps remove the warning triangle since we already have aGF! info text in red,
Regards,

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><



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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: scubatinoo ()
Date: April 01, 2014 01:22PM

Matthias,
i realy like the screen layout of the OSTC3 - it looks very clear and orderly. Will you ever adapt it to OSTC 2(N/C) too?

regards,
scubatinoo

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: heinrichsweikamp ()
Date: April 01, 2014 01:32PM

ClaudeDive Wrote:
> I ask simply that for the white color, when the GF
> or aGF is selected it will be White and when the
> GF or aGF isn't selected it will be Red,

When switching to the "Red" Colour scheme the active GF is shown in red, as well as all other informations smiling smiley That's why we called it "Red". The inactive GF is shown in the inactive color ("blueish-grey").

With the "aGF!" warning, it's very clear that you have selected aGF, isn't it?

> With this we can perhaps remove the warning
> triangle since we already have aGF! info text in

Every warning enables the waning sign, theoretically we could change the "aGF!" to information level (Like the battery display).

Regards,
Matthias

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: heinrichsweikamp ()
Date: April 01, 2014 01:33PM

scubatinoo Wrote:
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> looks very clear and orderly. Will you ever adapt
> it to OSTC 2(N/C) too?

There are no plans to do so, sorry.

regards,
Matthias

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: April 01, 2014 04:25PM

Matthias
I think we are talking about the same thing but you have not seen the problem when the white color is active,
I hope my new photos attached will enlighten you,
I explain again my request :
When the red color is active, active GF is red and inactive aGF is white in this case OSTC3 display is correct, we are OK,
When the white color is active , active GF is white and inactive aGF is also white , I think in this case aGF inactive should be red,
Matthias , is that clear to you? see my attached photos,
My other point, since we have a red text alert when aGF is active ( aGF! ) , this selection aGF is a voluntary action by the user, I think the warning triangle is a warning signal redundant and may worry the user to another meaning or another alert that is not understood,
I already reported this problem warning triangle in another message when the battery is less than 25 % battery , also in this case the warning triangle can be disturbing and hide another more important warning that would not be seen,
Regards,

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: April 01, 2014 11:32PM

Matthias ,
Sorry , part of the problem is my vision , I'm colorblind and I have trouble seeing certain shade of color,
With my OSTC3 I have no problem with the green and red, which is pretty good for me ,
With the help of my wife I just realized that I can't absolutely distinguish the blueish - grey for GF or aGF inactive, when the white color is selected,
This problem of Distinction blueish - grey exists for me only when the white color is selected, the contrast of blueish - grey with white is too low for me,
With the selection of others colors green, red or blue I have no problem because the contrast of blueish - grey with these colors is more important ,
Would it be possible to increase a bit the contrast blueish - grey by making a little darker this color, I think that the problem will be fixed,
To the question of warning triangle, that is already in the information in red text "aGF!" I still believe that this triangle is redundant and may worry the user on another meaning or another alert which couldn't be understood ,
Similarly, when the battery voltage is less than 25%, we already have the information in red at the bottom of the dive mode display, also in this case the warning triangle is redundant and can be disturbing and hide another more important warning that would not be seen or understood,
see my message "Improvement Low battery signal" of January 4, 2014
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Regards,

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: heinrichsweikamp ()
Date: April 02, 2014 10:35AM

No worries. We have uploaded the new 1.24 firmware for the OSTC3 a few minutes ago. I think most of your issues should be solved with this update.

Regards,
Matthias

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: April 02, 2014 11:56PM

Matthias,
Thank you very much for the new update 1.24
When the white color is selected would be it possible to have for inactif "aGF" the same blue than NDL on the attached photo with the bleue selected?
With this blue it will be perfect,
Regards,


ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><



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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: April 06, 2014 11:59PM

Hi Matthias,
I inserted in my previous message the photo with the same blue color Than NDL when the color blue is selected,
Thank you if possible to apply when the color white is selected, this "NDL" blue to replace the blueish-grey for the following functions in mode Dive and Simulator:
- For "GF" or "aGF" inactif,
- Gas disabled in OC Mode,
- Diluent disabled in CC mode
Regards,

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><



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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: May 26, 2014 01:04AM

Hi Matthias,
I inserted the mockups below where you can see when the white color is selected, the replacement demand of blueish-gray with a dark bleu for the following functions in dive mode and Simulator:

- For "GF" or "AGF" inactive
- Gas disabled in OC mode,
- Thinner disabled in CC mode

The replacement of blueish-gray with a dark blue enhances color contrast and readability of the OSTC3 screen when white color is selected.



Thank you in advance for your reply, Regards,

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><



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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: heinrichsweikamp ()
Date: May 27, 2014 09:21AM

I don't like your version. Actually the disabled color draws more attention then the white color.

Regards,
Matthias

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: May 27, 2014 12:19PM

Matthias Ok,
Then would it be possible to use for the disabled color a medium blue or colors used with color scheme green or red as below,



Regards,

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><



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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: May 29, 2014 06:05PM

Hi Matthias,

In addition to my message above I propose a comparison with lighter colors (medium blue and medium grey) to replace the blueish-grey to improve the readability of the OSTC screen functions:

- "GF" or "aGF" disabled,
- Gas disabled in OC mode,
- Diluant disabled in CC mode,

This compartif we show clearly the best vision of such functions by colors medium blue or medium grey,

The medium grey color has the advantage of being compatible with all color schemes (White, Red, Green and Blue) and would therefore memorise for this functions regardless of the color schemes,



Thank you in advance for your answer, Regards,

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><



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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: June 12, 2014 12:36AM

Hi Matthias,
Before the next release, it would be friendly to have an answer on this improvement simple to realize and that would surely be appreciated by OSTC3 users for its greatly improved readability.
Matthias, how do you find the mockup above with the medium grey?
The medium grey has the advantage of being compatible with all color schemes.
Regards,

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: heinrichsweikamp ()
Date: June 12, 2014 09:37AM

Hi,

We had the same thread before the 1.24 release and we have changed the colors for you in the 1.24 according to your suggestions already. Actually, there are no other users requesting color changes in the color schemes. They can't be totally wrong then and the grey you proposed may be not bright enough in sunlight.

Regards,
Matthias

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: June 12, 2014 02:06PM

Hi Matthias,
Thank you for your reply, it is true to this day that I was alone in this application, but what percentage of users OSTC3 write on the forun, a very small percentage;
The Others users OSTC3 can probably make themselves known and to give their opinion on the blueish-grey, too light in my sense,
It is true that I am colorblind like 8% of the population and like 8% of users OSTC3, it deserves maybe you take this into account,
The improved readability also increases security,
It is easy for you to find a color that enhances readability, such perhaps as a yellow or a blueish-grey more dark, if you will, you can do it!
Thank you, to you take this into account for 8% of colorblind, I hope a favorable response,
Regards,

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: heinrichsweikamp ()
Date: June 17, 2014 11:31AM

ClaudeDive Wrote:
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> It is easy for you to find a color that enhances
> readability, such perhaps as a yellow or a
> blueish-grey more dark, if you will, you can do
> it!

Sure and I'll try another color for you but I though we went trough this before...

regards,
Matthias

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: heinrichsweikamp ()
Date: June 17, 2014 11:45AM

This is what I can offer. Note that the text routine uses an 8Bit color table. We can only use this small selection of colors.



regards,
Matthias



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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: June 17, 2014 06:58PM

Hi Matthias,
This is perfect, I don't ask no more,
I think it will, not only for me, but also for all users OSTC3 improve differentiation for functions concerned like:
- For "GF" or "aGF" inactif,
- Gas disabled in OC Mode,
- Diluent disabled in CC mode
For ease and security of reading,
I look forward to this improvement in the next update, hopefully soon,
Thank you again Matthias for this improvement,
Regards;

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><

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Re: OSTC3 - White Colour scheme for GF and aGF
Posted by: ClaudeDive ()
Date: June 17, 2014 10:47PM

Hi Matthias,
After installing the firmware V1.40, I see that the update is already done, That's great, the display and the reading are perfect!
Super matthias!
Thank you so much, Regards,

ClaudeDive ><)))))°> OSTC3 #2430 <°(((((><

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