Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

[findoose@yahoo.com]

Hi, this might be a silly question but he how dosen´t ask and all that..

Is it posible to display a three minute Safety Stop on the OSTC N2?


Hallo, dies ist warscheinlich ne dove frage aber der der nicht fragt und all das...

Ist es möglich das der OSTC N2 einen 3 minuten Sicherheits Stop anzeigen kan?

Thanks/Danke

[swissdiving]

Nein.

[Bardass]

Why do you need a safety stop on Ostc ?

[edhowarth]

Get to your stop; stop; start the stop watch; after 3 minutes, stop the stop watch; start your ascent to the surface.

[sailor]

http://www.heinrichsweikamp.com/read.ph ... 5#msg-6945

http://www.heinrichsweikamp.com/read.ph ... 9#msg-6489

[findoose@yahoo.com]

Thanks for the help, especially edhowarth and sailor!!

[swissdiving]

You can also change CF38 for the dive time to display minutes and seconds. Saves you haveing to start the stop watch.

[Dennis__1978]

Hi zusammen,
Baut doch einfachen den Safety Stop ein mit der Option es abzustellen.
Denn dann haben wir alles unsere ruhe. Und wir können uns wichtigeren Sache widmen.

[swissdiving]

Ich sehe absolut keinen grund weshalb ein safety stop eingebaut werden sollte. Was ist denn so schwierig sich daran zu erinnern dass man auf 3 metern einen sicherheits stop einschalten sollte!!??

Sonst gibt es ja auch die möglichkeit einen tauchcomputer zu kaufen der bereits safety stops unterstützt.

Und so nebenbei, das thema wurde schon mehrmals diskutiert mit dem entsprechenden kommentar von HW
http://www.heinrichsweikamp.com/read.php?2,6945,6945#msg-6945

[Dennis__1978]

Wenn es nach mir geht brauchen wir die Option Safety Stop mit.
Aber um die Diskussion ein ende zu setzten wäre es eine Option es einzubauen.

[Bumlerd]

Hi

This discussion is like the never ending story.
If you need the safety stop get an computer that does this or use your stop watch.
Most of us here don't need the feature to clog up more CF.
Please no need to add this on the OSTC.
Maybe on the frog ?

Michael

[scubatinoo]

With the new beta-firmware we've got plenty of new CF's... And because i do not only Tec-Dives with my OSTC, a safety stopp feature is not a bad idea. But it has to be an option to turn off or on.

[swissdiving]

Tinoo,

I really cannot see why there should be an option for a Safety Stop in the 2N.
Why is it so difficulty to use the brain to stop on 3 meters and look at the time on the 2N!?

With the safety stop function the only difference is that it does it automatically, but if you forget to look at the 2N you miss it anyway...
...which then would mean that the 2N also needs an audible alarm for those people who forget to look at the DC when they get to 3 meters.

If it really needs to be integrated it should be integrated in the frog, which is targeted at recreational divers.

[Bardass]

Why do we need a safety stop in Ostc for our recreational dives ?
Don't we have a brain in our head ?
Do we need a computer to tell us what we have to do at each moment ?
the computer is it informed of all the characheristics of the diver and the dive ? Does it know the power of the stream, the swell, physical efforts during the dive ... Don't we adjust decompression with these parameters ?
Diving means think and understand what is done under water.
When we buy an Ostc, we know it is not dedicated to recreational use.
We buy a Frog otherwise, or other computer.

[scubatinoo]

C'mon boys, don't be silly! If we would use our brains for diving we would not need a computer at all!

Fact is: The OSTC 2N can be used for
- recreational diving (no deco, air / nitrox)
- advanced recreational diving (light deco, air / nitrox)
- tec diving (multigas)
- ccr diving

In my case, i don't need the ccr-stuff. So i don't understand why this is implemented in my OSTC, but basic stuff like safety stopp is not...

Don't worry - i can count to 3, so i don't need the safety stopp feature at all. But if i decide to do a recreational dive with my OTSC why shouldn't my OSTC support me?

[swissdiving]

@Matthias

Please, please implement the Safety Stop in the frog.

[scubatinoo]

..but then remove all CCR related stuff from 2N - for this we have DR5...

Otherwise your arguments are foolish...

[sailor]

Hi,

the MK2 is also for CCR-diving, not only for OC-diving.
Even the MK1 was made for CCR-diving.
The DR5 is additionally good for CCR online deco.
There's no market for a tec-computer without CCR-mode.
Look at he Suunto HE02, no much sales for this computer as the CCR-mode is missing.
The frog is for recreational diving with a possible safety-stop.

Reiner

[Smiler1968]

Would it really be so bad to have a safety stop option. There will be plenty of spare CF'S in the next firmware. It could be set to off as a default and anyone who wants it can turn it on. Personally I do not want to invert my deco stops, so I don't turn CF54 on. I wouldn't suggest it is removed or it shouldnt be there just because I don't want it.

Jerry.

[swissdiving]

If there is such a thing as a saftey stop then you have to REMEMBER to look at the computer when you get to 3 meters and wait till the 5 minutes are up.

You can already do that now. When you see that you are on three meters you then look at the dive time and wait till 5 minutes have passed.

So why does it need an option to turn on a 3 Meter Saftey Stop! And if you forget to look at the OSTC when you get to 3 meters you will also miss the Safety Stop.

The option for a Safety Stop just makes no sense. Unless there was an audible alarm, which there isn't and there is not going to be.

[Chris Head]

I use the 2N for CC Trimix and my wife uses her 2N for recreational OC Air/Nitrox... the 3 minute Safety Stop would be a nice option.

OK Techies don't need it but people who have bought the 2N for recreational diving because they may want to go techie in the future (or because the Frog was not created) would appreciate the option.

Cheers GD.

[scubatinoo]

swissdiving Wrote:
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> If there is such a thing as a saftey stop then you
> have to REMEMBER to look at the computer when you
> get to 3 meters and wait till the 5 minutes are
> up.

Don't you think that even Sporties
- will look on their Computer during ascent?
- keep an eye on their ascent speed?
- want to know when they reach 6m

I've always turned off my biepers on every computer i had so far... So a missing bieper is really not an argument.

[findoose@yahoo.com]

I have done a couple of dives now since I posted the question about the Safety Stop and found that changing CF38 for the dive time to display minutes and seconds works really well for me. Tried the stopwatch as well but I'm not that big a fan of that option if it's compared to changing CF38.

Thanks again for all you Help everyone!!

[Bumlerd]

Hi Findoose

This is kind of funny, you have kind of changed our meaning about adding safety stops - as you did ask for them, and now you don't need them. I have changed my mind as well, i did not want them - but now with so many new CF why not have a CF that adds the possibility to make Safety Stops, this just add ekstra possibilities to OSTC mk2/2n.

Lol: Michael



findoose@yahoo.com Wrote:
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> I have done a couple of dives now since I posted
> the question about the Safety Stop and found that
> changing CF38 for the dive time to display minutes
> and seconds works really well for me. Tried the
> stopwatch as well but I'm not that big a fan of
> that option if it's compared to changing CF38.
>
> Thanks again for all you Help everyone!!

[swissdiving]

Guys you're driving me up the wall!!!

My suggestion, we'll leave it up to HW to decided if they want to implement it rather sooner than later.
I think I made my position on this subject abundanltly clear.


Over and out!