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PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 21 Aug 2014, 18:00
by Ludo
Hi,
Would it be possible to implement two different PpO2 max ceilings:
. one for the bottom gas
- one for deco gas
Some federations use e.g. 1.4 bar for the bottom gas, and 1.6 bar for deco gases.
I would like to use different settings for those gases types, I'm sure it will be used by other tec divers too.
Best regards
Ludo
Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 24 Aug 2014, 01:03
by ClaudeDive
Hi Matthias,
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I have already requested this feature in my subject "OSTC3 - Info MOD and pO2 max" April 11, 2014 10:54 p.m.
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Matthias, it would be great to do,
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Regards,
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Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 26 Aug 2014, 16:53
by Manohulu
Hi There,
I'm in the same situation. I have to set my bottom gas to 1.6 instead of 1.4 to be sure to use my O2 tank as soon I can...
Thanks a million to implement this feature in future release.
Cheers,
Emmanuel
Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 13:26
by heinrichsweikamp
What about just displaying the ppO2 in the "change depth" menu, next to the END/MOD line?
Regards,
Matthias
Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 27 Aug 2014, 17:36
by heinrichsweikamp
This is what I mean:
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Adding two different ppO2 warning levels will require more changes to the deco code what we want to avoid...
Regards,
Matthias
Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 29 Aug 2014, 17:12
by DennisA
Looks great.
What will happen during a dive, if I exeed the MOD?
/Dennis
Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 15:01
by heinrichsweikamp
Nothing. You get a ppO2 Warning. The OSTC gives the information you need but all decisions ("Go up", "Change Gas" ) must be made by the user.
Regards,
Matthias
Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 01 Sep 2014, 23:20
by ClaudeDive
Hi Matthias,
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Super, the mockup with the setting of specific P02 for each gas,
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I hope soon in the next update,
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It would also be great to have about the diving mode, MOD value display in red above the gas used,
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Regards,
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Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 02 Sep 2014, 15:27
by fyb
>>>it would also be great to have about the diving mode, MOD value display in red above the gas used
please don't do that - red means warning - MOD is an information. in my opinion MOD ist something you need during diveplaning and eventually during gas change. not in the normal dive mode
reg
Fredy
Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 06 Sep 2014, 12:17
by ClaudeDive
Hi,
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No matter the color for display MOD, but the MOD information is important in diving when changing gases but also as a safety reminder every time we are close to the MOD during the dive,
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Other information, like on the mockup of my previous post, as "EAD / END" are very useful for planning the dive, but completely useless during the dive,
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It would be preferable, for example, to replace them with check information such as the values the P02 Max of bottom gas and The PO2 Max of gases Deco,
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Regards,
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Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 13 Sep 2014, 14:07
by KEngelstoft
Hi! In my opinion, adding the MOD and ppO2 max settings to the in-dive display is not adding any value, it just clutters it with unneccesary information. I vote that it should not be added. The current pO2 level should be enough.
Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 10:42
by ClaudeDive
Hi Matthias,
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In the next OSTC3 update or in beta, would it be possible to display "EAD & MOD" as OSTCSport for the dive mode and the simulator,
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If in addition we could set the max pO2 separately for the background gas and gas deco, that would be great,
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Regards,
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Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 13:22
by fyb
EAD and MOD makes sense for a nitrox computer
in the OSTC3 i would suggest to show
END and MOD
i support also two diffrent max O2 levels für travel/bottom gas and for decompression gas
reg
Fredy
Re: PpO2 max bottom gas vs. deco gas
Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 01:03
by ClaudeDive
fyb wrote >> in the OSTC3 i would suggest to show "END / MOD"
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NO, because "EAD" (N2 toxicity) is also the reference for Trimix including for the choice of "Best Mix" which is not the case for "END" which is a value that incorporates the toxicity of O2 and N2 ,
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On the other hand I think "EAD / END" are very useful for planning the dive, but completely useless with in display during the dive,
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How do you use "EAD / END" during your dive?
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I think instead of "EAD / END" it would be better to have "pO2 Max / MOD" in display for current gas in use, such information is a useful reminder of safety Maxi parameters for this gas during the dive,
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fyb wrote >> diffrent max O2 levels für travel/bottom gas and for decompression gas
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YES But in the hypoxic Trimix dive "travel gas" is used during the descent but also during the deco,
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So we need to be able to adjust the pO2 Max for the following gases:
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- T: Travel & deco gases (eg 1.6 b)> and NO Travel & Bottom Gases
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- B: Bottom Gas (eg 1.4 b)
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- D: deco Gas (eg 1.6b)
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Regards,
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