Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

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heinrichsweikamp
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by heinrichsweikamp »

Hi,

The saftey stop is displayed between 5 and 3m (4.99m to 3.00m). The length is 3minutes. The time is reset when diving > 10m again. If the dive was a deco dive it's not shown.

Regards,
Matthias
Stu @ M Developments
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by Stu @ M Developments »

[quote=heinrichweikamp]
Hi,

The saftey stop is displayed between 5 and 3m (4.99m to 3.00m). The length is 3minutes. The time is reset when diving > 10m again. If the dive was a deco dive it's not shown.

[/quote]

Sounds absolutely perfect to me.
I would like to test this on Wednesday. If I download this firmware tonight and there are found to be any bugs, can I revert back to 2.21 again easily?
Best Regards,
Stu
(Blackpool - UK)
heinrichsweikamp
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by heinrichsweikamp »

Yes, you can downgrade at any time.

regards,
Matthias
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by Stu @ M Developments »

Thanks, will try it Wednesday then. Great work, thank you.
Best Regards,
Stu
(Blackpool - UK)
wamchop

Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by wamchop »

The only suggestion I would make would be to set the start threshold at 6m(5.99) rather than 5 to match up with other DC's that do call for a safety stop

Cheers
Dave
Smiler1968
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by Smiler1968 »

Hi, is the safety stop function supposed to work in a simulated dive? If so mines not working.

Regards

Jerry.
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Smiler1968
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

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Smiler1968 Wrote:
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> Hi, is the safety stop function supposed to work
> in a simulated dive? If so mines not working.
>
> Regards
>
> Jerry.


I tried it again and it worked. Nice job.

Jerry
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Bardass
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by Bardass »

not working with simulated dives
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by Stu @ M Developments »

Hi,
ok, tried it on 3 dives yesterday and it works fine, however, one annomaly is that it switches into safety stop at 4.99M, but switches back off at 5.1.

It does however still seem to count down, just dissapears off the display until you ascent above 4.9 meters again.

Apart from that, worked like a charm, but I would prefer it to perhaps switch into safety stop at between 6 and 5.5m and maintain the display unless we drop back below 6.5 perhaps?
Best Regards,
Stu
(Blackpool - UK)
cparsons
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by cparsons »

Strange - I tried this and mine doesn't work in a simulated dive either! Perhaps I will try again tonight - I am not going to use it anyway but am curious

Off topic but I would also vote for 10 gases for what it's worth

Keep up the good work :)
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Chris Parsons
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heinrichsweikamp
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by heinrichsweikamp »

Make sure to turn the stop on (CF65). I'll wait for more comments before I change the thresholds...

Regards,
Matthias
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by Stu @ M Developments »

Interestingly, when I looked at it, it said Default "Off" Current setting "on" and it wouldnt work. I changed it from on, to off, and back again, and it worked fine. I wonder if it was really defaulted to "off" regardless of what it displayed?
Best Regards,
Stu
(Blackpool - UK)
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by Stu @ M Developments »

[quote=Matthias]
Make sure to turn the stop on (CF65). I'll wait
for more comments before I change the
thresholds...
[/quote]

Thanks for your time and efforts mate, very much appreciated indeed.
Best Regards,
Stu
(Blackpool - UK)
Uwe S.

Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by Uwe S. »

Hallo Matthias,

habe einige TG`s im Simulator und im Freiwasser durchgeführt. Alles funktioniert einwandfrei. Bitte nur die Anfangstiefe auf 5,xx m ändern.


Gruß Uwe
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

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Stu @ M Developments Wrote:
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> Interestingly, when I looked at it, it said
> Default "Off" Current setting "on" and it wouldnt
> work. I changed it from on, to off, and back
> again, and it worked fine. I wonder if it was
> really defaulted to "off" regardless of what it
> displayed?


Stu, that's exactly what I did and it started to work.

I also dropped back below 5m and the safety stop disappeared from the screen. When I ascended again it came back on at the same point. Not sure if that's intended but wouldn't cause me any problems.

Safety stop starting at 5.99 might be nice.

Regards

Jerry
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heinrichsweikamp
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by heinrichsweikamp »

Hi,

Ok, I'll add some hysteresis in showing the stop. The stop time is reset when going below 10m. Above, the old stop time is resumed.

regards,
Matthias
Bardass
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by Bardass »

It works !
But you need to turn CF65 on even if it's on
Matthias, you need to translate it in french :
CF65 : Palier de sécurité
Dive screen : PalierSécu
Bardass
DiverM
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by DiverM »

Simply adjusting the countdown start depth to 6m would function as hysteresis and bring it to par with the Suunto and Mares implementation.
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nakatomi
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by nakatomi »

A 6m to 3m corridor for the safety stop would be perfect.
Oliver
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gorcio
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by gorcio »

Well ... 3 minutes time ... is not in accordance to CMAS/LIFRAS regulations in Belgium, nor is 3 meters depth. And so the computer has a function, which would be useless for people who are used to do 5'/5m. Feels like half-baked cake, even if I am not using it. Just my feeling and 3 cents.
Kind regards,
Gorcio, OSTC MK2 828
Vortax
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by Vortax »

Computers sold in Belgium (Suunto, Mares, etc) give you a 5minx5m stop, or a standard 3min 6-3m stop?
gorcio
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by gorcio »

Vortax Wrote:
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> Computers sold in Belgium (Suunto, Mares, etc)

I do not know what they give, as I time my stops myself, and usually, I am doing deco stops rather than safety stop. Having said that - I guess it is not the computer, but federation rules one is supposed to follow. At least that's what I was taught.
My message was just a signal, that could be treated as something to improve if You decide to have such functionality built-in. I am not interested in discussing if Suunto is right, or if CMAS is right - just stating the fact.
Kind regards,
Gorcio, OSTC MK2 828
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by swissdiving »

Who ever said this was going to be easy!?
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Hansjoerg

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boefst
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by boefst »

I don't think we are discussing a training-standard-compatible-dive computer here, but a simple Safety Stop like most computers have already. A guide to normal good diving practice when diving within the NDL.
The only difference is that it's configurable ON or OFF to suit the divers preferences.

Three minutes between 3 and 6 meters would be nice in my opinion.
Bardass
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Re: Safety Stop/Sicherheits Stop

Post by Bardass »

3m, 5m, 6m ...
3 minutes, 5 minutes ..
The most simple : use StopWatch
Bardass
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