Logbook - Profil nicht eingemittet

[scubatinoo]

Hallo

Nur ein Schönheitsfehler: Die Grafik vom Tauchprofil "klebt" bei mir am rechten Bildschirmrand. Auf der linken Seite hingegen hat es einen Abstand von geschätzten 10 Pixeln.

Zudem bräuchte das Profil auf der dritten Detailseite eigentlich nicht mehr angezeigt werden, da die Informationen oberhalb der Grafik nicht mehr wirklich Bezug zur Grafik haben. Stattdessen sähe ich hier lieber weitere Informationen wie Ausstiegszeit, max pO2, CNS, OTU usw. Ich denk da wären sicher noch ein paar Wünsche zu berücksichtigen...

[swissdiving]

Jetzt hat dich aber die langeweile gepackt!

Bei mir ist das profilbild richtig so. Wenn es weiter links ist dann ist es unter dem text OSTC 2N der auf dem Glas hinterlegt ist.

Könnte man das Profil nicht auch noch in 3D darstellen!?
(:P)

[scubatinoo]

swissdiving Wrote:
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> Jetzt hat dich aber die langeweile gepackt!
>
> Bei mir ist das profilbild richtig so. Wenn es
> weiter links ist dann ist es unter dem text OSTC
> 2N der auf dem Glas hinterlegt ist.

Interessant. Dann müsste es dir aber den Text oberhalb vom Profil abschneiden... Bei mir ist z.b. die Raute von der TG-Nummer links bündig mit dem Bildschirm, das Profil selbst hat aber quasi einen Einzug... Der Grafik-Output müsste doch bei allen Units gleich sein?

Und letztendlich wollen wir doch alle das eine: den perfekten Tauchcomputer ever

[heinrichsweikamp]

Hallo,

Da sind 7px platz links.

Warum weiß ich auch nicht mehr, vielleicht war da mal eine Skala geplant?

Gruß,
Matthias

[DiverM]

scubatinoo Wrote:
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> Hallo
>
> Nur ein Schönheitsfehler: Die Grafik vom
> Tauchprofil "klebt" bei mir am rechten
> Bildschirmrand. Auf der linken Seite hingegen hat
> es einen Abstand von geschätzten 10 Pixeln.
>
> Zudem bräuchte das Profil auf der dritten
> Detailseite eigentlich nicht mehr angezeigt
> werden, da die Informationen oberhalb der Grafik
> nicht mehr wirklich Bezug zur Grafik haben.
> Stattdessen sähe ich hier lieber weitere
> Informationen wie Ausstiegszeit, max pO2, CNS, OTU
> usw. Ich denk da wären sicher noch ein paar
> Wünsche zu berücksichtigen...

The scale indication with the blue horizontal and vertical lines for indication of 10M and 10min work for me. So the unused pixels, for reasons even Mathias can't remember , can be put to use for displaying the graph.

And indeed, the third page could be used to display more information about the dive, perhaps summarize "all" info one could need for the paper logbook?
ie: Start, Stop, Duration, Depth max, Depth avg, pO2max, CNS, GF-max, CNS, OTU, Gasswitch times, Max Ascend velocity, Max tissue saturations, etc etc,

Just to coin a few ideas for values to display. Perhaps even enough to sanction a "page 4"?

[scubatinoo]

yep, that's my point

[tiefunten]

DiverM Wrote:
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>
> And indeed, the third page could be used to
> display more information about the dive, perhaps
> summarize "all" info one could need for the paper
> logbook?
> ie: Start, Stop, Duration, Depth max, Depth avg,
> pO2max, CNS, GF-max, CNS, OTU, Gasswitch times,
> Max Ascend velocity, Max tissue saturations, etc
> etc,
>
> Just to coin a few ideas for values to display.
> Perhaps even enough to sanction a "page 4"?

I would support this summary of all interesting data for a paper logbook on the third page instead of the profile shown there again.

[swissdiving]

I like the idea of a summary page.

[Vortax]

Me too. That summary page could be very useful. Nice idea!

[Iglooz]

In the same kind of idea, it would be nice to have a dedicated page in surface mode (right button custom page) that displays the main parameters of the last dive (at least depth and duration but others like deco-stop would be nice too). In recreational dive context, When you get back on the boat, you are asked for this parameters by the dive director and there no way to get them without "diving" into the menus and recall the logbook of the last dive.....

[fishwithlungs]

In the surface mode are 4 pages,so that would make 5 presses necessary."diving" into menu takes Left(Menu) and 2x Right buttons.What would be the purpose of adding a page in standby that requires more pushes of buttons than what's there already?
Regarding the profile screen:the seven pixels space does't really look so much out of proportion as does the dive profile that occupies only a half to 2/3rds of the rectangle with lots of blank space on the right.Is there a way to make the 10m/10min scale stretch across the whole screen within the profile boundaries?
If there are reasons for it looking like this then no big deal,i rather have not so nice screen(in logbook) than a potential bug in some critical part of code.

On the other hand,one page of logbook with summary would be nice (as per DiverM & tiefunten's idea),would fit on 1st page instead of the graph,2nd gaslist with profile graph(Version & Voltage moved to 3rd,replaced by mbar and Desat) and 3rd page settings(CNS & Avr moved to 1st).
Or any combination thereof

Cheers,

Richard

[Iglooz]

fishwithlungs Wrote:
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> In the surface mode are 4 pages,so that would make 5 presses necessary."diving" into menu takes Left(Menu) and 2x Right buttons.What would be the purpose of adding a page in standby that requires more pushes of buttons than what's there already?

5 presses if you set this summary after all the other (less interesting) 4 pages !!
For me, it should stand in first place without pressing any button (like any other computer or even electronic gauge), at least as long as the decompression is on the go ...
When you get out of the water, it is far more interesting to know the last dive depth/duration than displaying the current air temp or air pressure (I'm a diver not a meteorologist !!) or even with how many gas I've dived : I'm not used to loose my bottles when I dive...
And anyway it is faster and easier to press 5 times on the same button than a succession of left and right.

But I do not "fight" again your ideas of reorganizing the way data are displayed in the logbook or if data should be displayed in the surface custom menu or in the logbook : for me it should simply be both !!
I "+1" most of the ideas of this thread, at least the ones expressed in English...
I just point out the fact that the last dive parameters would deserve a specific treatment apart from the logbook management.

Iglooz

[DiverM]

fishwithlungs Wrote:
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[...]
>
> On the other hand,one page of logbook with summary
> would be nice (as per DiverM & tiefunten's
> idea),would fit on 1st page instead of the
> graph,2nd gaslist with profile graph(Version &
> Voltage moved to 3rd,replaced by mbar and Desat)
> and 3rd page settings(CNS & Avr moved to 1st).
> Or any combination thereof
>
> Cheers,
>
> Richard

Idea by Tiefunten, I just translated it to English and added some details...

Credit where credit is due

[scubatinoo]

DiverM Wrote:
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> Idea by Tiefunten, I just translated it to English
> and added some details...
>
> Credit where credit is due

you're sure?

[DiverM]

I do take credit for adding the details -D

But really, tiefunten had the idea to drop the graph on page 3, and show more dive details instead.

[tiefunten]

@ DiverM: Scubatinoo mentioned this idea first but in german in the first post within this thread...

[scubatinoo]

Thanks tiefunten :)o

I even would bring up the idea of having the summary page first, then all details like profile, gas list and so on, on the following pages. This would make it easier and faster for the ones like me, who write paper logbooks...

[tiefunten]

Well, I actually really like the profile on the first page of the logbook. What I don't like is the fact, that Depth, Time, average Depth and entry Time (all the data necessary for my paper-logbook) are on different pages. Furthermore it would be interesting to have the max. TTS or Deco-Information of the actual dive within the logbook.

[DiverM]

tiefunten Wrote:
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> @ DiverM: Scubatinoo mentioned this idea first but
> in german in the first post within this thread...


You are right, I'm going to have to blame my oversight on nitrogen narcosis :)o