Air Integration

OSTC running hwOS4 Firmware
deepadrenalin
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Air Integration

Post by deepadrenalin »

Dear staff,
is it thinkable to produce a OSTC4 with tank pressure integration?
Thank you
Jörg
www.deepadrenalin.de
heinrichsweikamp
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Re: Air Integration

Post by heinrichsweikamp »

Dear Jörg.

It is thinkable but not available. We will keep you updated. Most likely via twitter or facebook - our news channels that we installed lately.

regards,
Christian
Danny
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Re: Air Integration

Post by Danny »

Yes, this option would be a superb update for the future.
Hope that you can manage it quickly and that it will work for the OSTC3+ also!
Greetzzzzz
Danny
chrisrms
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Re: Air Integration

Post by chrisrms »

Hi,
me to, I would very much appreciate wireless air integration in for the OSTC 4! I'm used to it from Suunto EON Steel and IMHO it is such a nice feature.

Would really be great!

Thanks
Christoph
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Re: Air Integration

Post by heinrichsweikamp »

Hi Christoph,

Honestly, it's not planned for the OSTC4 currently.

regards,
Matthias
chrisrms
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Re: Air Integration

Post by chrisrms »

Hi Matthias,

yeah I know, you told me already on pm before I bought the OSTC 4 (instead of the Shearwater Perdix AI) that it's not planned currently, but as this topic is there I wanted to point out the it really would be a great feature to have!

Best regards

Christoph
calestyo
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Re: Air Integration

Post by calestyo »

I'd really like such a feature...
The sensors could be connected via BT and the data logged.

And even better:
One could have features that do dynamic air calculation,... e.g. the OSTC could more or less accurately calculate the current SAC and based on this and the current scheduled deco stops + some configurable safety margin (e.g. 1/3 rule, or e.g. "want to leave with 50bar") tell the diver how long he could stay at the current depth and still get out (after that time) properly.

I.e. a FTTS with air ;-)
chrisrms
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Re: Air Integration

Post by chrisrms »

Yea, dynamic air calculation, SAC rate, preddiction how long at a given depth air supply lasts, etc. would really be great! Well some day perhaps ;-)
calestyo
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Re: Air Integration

Post by calestyo »

@chrisrm
Seems the Shearwater Perdix AI can do it already,.. air integration, optimal gas time remaining, SAC based on the actual tank usage.

The Scubapro G2 has at least the air integration (as the Galileos had), but not sure whether they do the actual calculations or just show/log the pressure values.

The Ratio iX3M family also have air integration via BT,.. but again not sure about whether they just show the current value, or calculate the remaining time/etc.


Cheers,
Chris.
chrisrms
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Re: Air Integration

Post by chrisrms »

@ calestyo

yeah I know that the Shearwater Perdix AI has this already but I still decided to go for the OSTC 4 ;-) So I hope this will come one day!

I had a Suunto EON before which also has it and yes, it's nice to have AI integration, SAC rate calculation, etc, etc.

Regards
Christoph
mdiver
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Re: Air Integration

Post by mdiver »

Any news on an air integration for OSTC 4?
I would be very interested in the feature. But I also realized that even for OSTC 2 TR it's not easy to get the transmitter.
It seems it was even dropped in the online shop of the website as it is not selectable any more.

Besides other systems I still use my good old Air Z O2 and love the RBT feature during liveaboard trips with limited air supply.

Thanks and regards,
Mike
swissdiving
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Re: Air Integration

Post by swissdiving »

@HW
I assume air integration is not supported by the current hardware?

SD
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Re: Air Integration

Post by heinrichsweikamp »

Correct, the OSTC4 (also the complete new end-2019 hardware version) is not fitted for AI and this is and was never planned.

Regards,
Matthias
swissdiving
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Re: Air Integration

Post by swissdiving »

Thumbs Up
Cheers,

Hansjoerg

--> 2N - 2201 / 3892
--> OSTC4 - 257 / 392 / 424 / 1324 Fischer
--> OSTC5 - 1507 S8

RTFM
Pierrot48
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Re: Air Integration

Post by Pierrot48 »

Hi Matthias,
The major contenders in the Diving Computer world have currently in their range an Air Integrated model.
Do you plan to have also one in the near future?
chrisrms
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Re: Air Integration

Post by chrisrms »

Hello,

I join this, and would also like to see the OSTC4 with AI,would be really a great feature.

Regards
Christoph
heinrichsweikamp
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Re: Air Integration

Post by heinrichsweikamp »

Hi,

We don't have this planed for the OSTC4, sorry.

regards,
Matthias
swissdiving
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Re: Air Integration

Post by swissdiving »

Thumbs Up Matthias!
Cheers,

Hansjoerg

--> 2N - 2201 / 3892
--> OSTC4 - 257 / 392 / 424 / 1324 Fischer
--> OSTC5 - 1507 S8

RTFM
svenM
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Re: Air Integration

Post by svenM »

Hi,
my OSTC4 shows in the HWOS Config that it has a "receiver for tank pressure sensors".
Is that a bug, or is the hardware in the OSTC4. I would like to implement that feature if the hardware is actually in there.

regards,
Sven
Pierrot48
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Re: Air Integration

Post by Pierrot48 »

Hi,
We are now in 2023, most of the Hi-End Dive Computer manufacturer have one or more model with Air Integration.
When will be this feature available with an OSTC. Kind regards.
tdewilt2
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Re: Air Integration

Post by tdewilt2 »

hi,

Air integration is overrated, you have to take into account that in stress you use more air time remaining is a dangerous thing. if you have more than 1 tank how do you calculate?

in my opinion as a technical computer it's not needed.

When you do a req. dive it might me nice. but then again, (SAC*(1+depth/10))/tank in l is bar/min.. this you can calculate before the dive using a safe SAC.

/teun
tuts
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Re: Air Integration

Post by tuts »

May be it is overrated.
But mostly all new better divecomputer have his Feature.
Not all Must use it, but for the people how want this Feature it will be a reason to buy one.

I for example search for a diveingcomputer with a good and big Display, Not specialy for tecnical Diving (only Nitrox) and I found the ostc5 realy meets all but now i have to decide to leave the Air Integration behind, or take an other Computer with a smaller Display etc …
Walde
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Re: Air Integration

Post by Walde »

Currently I have OSTC4 and OSTC2. My next computer will absolutely have AI, Shearwater is the strongest candidate at the moment.
Mostly dive in sidemount configuration and do some technical diving, AI would be absolutely beneficial.
Pierrot48
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Re: Air Integration

Post by Pierrot48 »

Hi,
Diese neue OSTC 5 ist ziemlich enttäuschend. Mehr als fünf Jahren Entwicklung, um nur einen Vergrösserten Display zu haben.
Das Display von meinen OSTC 4 war schon sehr sehr gut, jetzt ist es schöner „AMOLED“, grösser und schärfer, aber immer noch keine Luftintegration.
Vor ein paar Jahren habt Ihr einen OSTC mit Luftintegration auf den Markt gebracht. Leider dieser hat nicht richtig funktioniert, und anstatt die Probleme zu lösen, ihr habt Leider dieses Modell aufgegeben. Die Mehrheit meinen Taucher-Kollegen haben jetzt alle einen zweiten Tauchcomputer mit Luftintegration gekauft, und benützen Ihre OSTC als Notfall / zweiten Computer, aber nicht mehr als Hauptcomputer.
Eins ist sicher, ihr verliert viele Kunde weil ihr die Luftintegration nicht als Option anbieten.
Pierrot48
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Re: Air Integration

Post by Pierrot48 »

Hi,
This new OSTC 5 is pretty disappointing. More than five years of development just to have a larger display.
The display on my OSTC 4 was already very good, now it's a nicer "AMOLED," larger, and sharper, but still no air integration.
A few years ago, you launched an OSTC with air integration. Unfortunately, it didn't work properly, and instead of solving the problems, you unfortunately abandoned this model. The majority of my fellow divers have now purchased a second dive computer with air integration and use their OSTC as an emergency/second computer, but no longer as their primary computer.
One thing is certain, you're losing a lot of customers because you don't offer air integration as an option.
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